[AmandaWIRN]

Originally Posted by Muscleman

Crime committed......Being a male patient in a hospital.

Crime committed: Making personal attacks on nurses who had nothing to do with your "privacy violation".....

[ER-RN75]

Without disregarding your view regarding being denied the proper sense of privacy, as an ER nurse, I must ask...Were you removing only your shirt at this point, or your pants also?? I'm sure that we have all left open a curtain or two when a man removes his shirt to place on a gown...and I do find it hard to believe that any nurse would leave a curtain open while you removed your pants. You see, without specific information we, as nurses who know what we do each day, cannot totally empathize with you because what you perceive to be a lack of disregard to your privacy, we may perceive differently. Just as what we perceive to be an emergency, you may perceive differently.

[Muscleman]

Hi MagredC5

That's not my intro but my rap sheet. BTW, does your handle
stand for the color of your 5th generation Corvette C5. If so nice car
as I had the upportunity to drive one once. I have an 04 Ferrari 360
Modena, black on tan with OZ rims and custom fab speed motorsport
headers and exhaust. I see that you are in the Armed forces. I thank
you and salute you for your sacrifice and dedication.



The uniform that you adorn,a piece of our heritage proudly worn.
Doing what you have to do,serving our nation brave and true.
You're putting your life on the line,to protect this simple life of mine.
The proud and courageous are but a few, our hearts and thanks go
out to you.

[Muscleman]

To ER Rn75


Thank you and certainly a fair question as I'll be specific about the first
incident. My neighbors brought me to the hospital as I was unable to drive
myself due to the pain. Shortly after arriving at the hospital I was taken to my
room in the emergency department via a wheelchair. As the triage nurse
parked my wheelchair to the right side of the bed two nurses walked and
stood facing each other just outside the room. One of the nurses told me to
take my clothes off and change into the gown that was on the bed.
I stood up and started to lie down on the bed. The nurse said you have to
change into the gown first. The pain I was experiencing was tremendous and
basically all I wanted to do was lie down in a fetal position. I took of the shirt,
stepped out of my jeans and underwear and reached for the gown. At that
point out the left corner of my eye I noticed a crowd of perhaps 7 to ten
people walking by. At the point I was nude and continued to reach for the
gown. I was at that point nearly facing the doorway of the room.
The two nurses were still standing in the hallway and part of the crowd
had stopped in front of my room. I didn't really focus on faces but none
were wearing hospital attire and perhaps half or more were women. All
looked to be in business attire. The entire front of my room was glass with
the sliding door was glass as well. Anyone walking by had full visibility to
the entire room which was well illuminated. There were drapes but they were
in the room and were not drawn.
It's one of those situations whereby I knew what just happened but I
was just focusing on trying to handle the pain and I just complied. When
part of the crowd stopped in front of my room I just thought "whatever"
and continued to reach for the gown and put it on. I didn't have an
opportunity to analyze the situation moment by moment. All I wanted to do
was lie down on that bed.

[ER-RN75]

Muscleman

Now that we all know the details, I'm sure anyone in this forum (or any nurse in general) can now say that they visualized the whole scenario as they read your post. I'm sure we would all agree that we have at one point or another realized a curtain was left open, snatched ahold of it, and ripped it shut "just in the nick of time". I must say that I would have to agree with your frustration and anger and say that to some extent it is warranted. Any ER nurse who has had a man come in with a kidney stone can empathize with you and understand why you did not think nor care at THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT if the curtain was or was not closed. I'm sure that once the pain was relieved and you had the time to reflect you were angry - as any one of us would be also.

However, maybe the way you have handled the situation is what frustrates some of the people on this board. If you would have given the details in your original post, I can guarantee you that you would have had a different reaction here. I also think that I have read enough of AmandaWIRNs posts to know that she appears to be a good, professional nurse, and may have also responded differently to you...

[hppygr8ful]

When I was in nursing school and doing my SNF rotation I went into a pt room to help one of my patients with a bedbath. After I knocked and opened the door I found my classmate with the poor gentleman stark naked on the bed being vigorously scrubbed. He was very obtunded but the first thing I did was go get some warm bath blankets and cover the poor guy. He had goosflesh all over. Then I proceeded to help bath the gentleman as we had been taught exposing small areas and washing them one by one always seeing to privacy and comfort. My classmate couldn't see what the big difference was as the patient wa so out of it. I guess she felt it didn't matter if he couldn't protest.

When taking care of male patients or females I always knock on doors (if not an emergency). Make sure curtains are pulled etc. It's a lot harder where I currently work in psych as many of my patients either have no boundaries or they are so paranoid you can't get near them. Still when one is incontinent or partially cloths my staff and I doo our best to help the patients stay clean and have some dignity.

These are just comments from my corner of the sandbox.

Peace and Namaste

Hppy

[SoldierNurse]

Originally Posted by Muscleman

Hi MagredC5

That's not my intro but my rap sheet. BTW, does your handle
stand for the color of your 5th generation Corvette C5. If so nice car
as I had the upportunity to drive one once. I have an 04 Ferrari 360
Modena, black on tan with OZ rims and custom fab speed motorsport
headers and exhaust. I see that you are in the Armed forces. I thank
you and salute you for your sacrifice and dedication.



The uniform that you adorn,a piece of our heritage proudly worn.
Doing what you have to do,serving our nation brave and true.
You're putting your life on the line,to protect this simple life of mine.
The proud and courageous are but a few, our hearts and thanks go
out to you.

Yes, I have 2001 C5 Corvette with exterior color Mag Red II.

Thanks for the poem... and thanks for your support of the troops. I'm an active duty Army Nurse Corps officer deployed to Iraq for 15 months.

[SoldierNurse]

Originally Posted by hppygr8ful

When I was in nursing school and doing my SNF rotation I went into a pt room to help one of my patients with a bedbath. After I knocked and opened the door I found my classmate with the poor gentleman stark naked on the bed being vigorously scrubbed. He was very obtunded but the first thing I did was go get some warm bath blankets and cover the poor guy. He had goosflesh all over. Then I proceeded to help bath the gentleman as we had been taught exposing small areas and washing them one by one always seeing to privacy and comfort. My classmate couldn't see what the big difference was as the patient wa so out of it. I guess she felt it didn't matter if he couldn't protest.

When taking care of male patients or females I always knock on doors (if not an emergency). Make sure curtains are pulled etc. It's a lot harder where I currently work in psych as many of my patients either have no boundaries or they are so paranoid you can't get near them. Still when one is incontinent or partially cloths my staff and I doo our best to help the patients stay clean and have some dignity.

These are just comments from my corner of the sandbox.

Peace and Namaste

Hppy

LOL, your corner of the sandbox? Are you deployed to Iraq? If not, please remember those of us that are currently deployed to Iraq and live in the sandbox... FOR REAL.

[dlf2007]

In my career as a nurse, I've always afforded patients the same respect and privacy regardless of gender. If I forgot to close a curtain, I would welcome a patients request that I do so. Having been a female patient in the same circumstance as you a simple request of the nursing staff to pull the curtain, no matter how much pain I was in, was well worth not having a resentment over the issue. It might be worthwhile and make more sense for you to address this issue to the hospital admin. from which you received care.

[hppygr8ful]

I have never had to honor to serve our great country - but I send kudos to you and all who are currently deployed to Iraq and other troubled areas of the world. I guess in a way I do serve as I am currently working with a couple of Vets with PTSD. I can't even come close to understanding what you all are facing everyday - I'm sure it's no sandbox. My family and I pray for your safe return everyday. Stray safe do what you have to do and come home soon.

Peace and Namaste

Hppy