[Judyd]

What would it be like to be trapped in a body, with very minimal purposeful movements, and have your mind completely alert and hear everything being said for several months? Just imagine! Pray for Brenda! I think she cried today when I talked about her hugging her children. My God is it really possible??? <font color="blue"> </font> My God is it really possible???

[Jerryh53]

There are a couple of people at the nursing home where my mother is thats in that situation. Even though they cant move or talk, you can tell in their that they are alert to whats going on around them. and I dont see how we could ever imagine what thats like. Heres just hoping that we never have to go thru that.

Jerry

[Judyd]

She is a young mother of two grade school kids. I simply can not imagine the horror of the living grave. Thank God it's not me and God truly bless the people already there, This may be like limbo. I think it may be worse than hell. Oops my culture may be showing to much. Glad to hear from you again.

[Aaron C.]

"one" - Early 80's Metallica song is about a war vet who lost all of his limbs, his sight, his speech, and his hearing to a land mine. All he can do is lie there. In the video there are doctors standing over him and he is blinking in morse code, "kill me, kill me" over and over again.

"darkness, imprisoning me, all that I see, absolute horror, I cannot live, I cannot die, trapped in myself, body my holding cell"

I imagine it would be pure hell

[Judyd]

OMG Shortbus, I can not. My # three son, listens to Metalica lots. I can not understand how anyone can know what the words are to any of their songs.I call it Head Ache Music. LOL Is the 'quote' words from the song. I would be fascinated in seeing all the printed words. The song written out. How could I get that?

[Aaron C.]

yeah, it's words from the song. Metallica was around before I should have been listening to them, but somehow, I wound up with them in my tape player when everyone else was listening to DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince or Vanilla Ice. Anyway, I'm 100% sure you could find them just by searching online. Or buying one of their cds with the song on it. Actually, all of metallica's songs have pretty strong and deep meaning to them.

[Jerryh53]

I may start a big storm with what I'm gonna say, but take it for how it's meant. As with the vet wanting to die, things like this are why i think assisted suicide should be thought of more in our day and time. I think people have the right to die with a little bit of dignity instead of just being here in whatever state they are in. Whether it be terminally ill or as in the vets case, a mind in a body with no way to ever get out. Hope this doesnt ruffle anyones feathers.

Have a great day

Jerry

[Aaron C.]

I definately won't disagree with you Jerry, but there is such a fine line there, it would really hard to create any kind of guidelines that distinguish between what is/is not ethical/legal/moral.

[Judyd]

Many times in my career I have believed we should actually help someone die. I think the line is so thin now that sometimes we are. I remember when I was told if the respirations were 11 or under, never for any reason give more pain medicine. Now I have heard Hospice teach if we give more morphine it helps them relax and die. I did not believe in Gavorkian (sp) but I was glad he brought to the public, awareness of what was already ethically happening. I believe in treating families and pts. I pray a lot, and hope God brings everyone together at the right time to accept his will. Their is not good death for the living when a loved one dies.

[Judyd]

You are so right, and where would the deciding who would live or die end? What about abortions, with non- productive no family elderly, or severely disabled? Who would decide? I had a litter of kitty's once. The umbilical cord was far to short and tied two of them tightly together. One had three toes on one foot shrunk and necrotic. The one it was tied to, was paralyzed from lower mid spine down. I clipped the cord and separated them believing someone should kill the paralyzed kitty. We had some serious emergencies in my home just then and it was about 4 days before I could check on the kitty's again. They were both growing and surviving. I left them alone and just watched.
At about 1 week, the plump little growing kitty with a non growing foot died on it's own. The paralyzed kitty was the first to leave the nest, the room and the house. It first drug itself around, then slowly began to use it's legs, then did fine. He was the only Tom. He lived about 3 years before a coyote or something got him. I thought to myself many times how if it had been up to me I would have killed the wrong cat. We are only human.
PS. Where the cord had wrapped around the lower waist area of the kitty all the hair grew in white. He was a black kitty. We called him string because of the fine line of white hair that wrapped around him. What I don't understand is, If color is defined from the core of the hair, How did this abnormality happen? And if the cat shed all the time Why did it last the lifetime of that cat? More to imagine with!!! Huh?