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Old 07-05-2004, 11:51 AM   #11
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Re: Which one does what? Help Please

RN AD: two year university based program, (book taught nurses, few clinicals) some have started added clinical rotations to the end of the program so nurses could get the hands on training so *INVALUABLE* to a nurse's education!

Diploma nurses are better prepared to "hit the floor running,"

I have a BSN but first had the ADN and we did LOTS of clinicals. We had clinicals all 4 semesters 2 1/2 days a week and classroom 1 1/2 days for the most part. We had all the science classes, speech, English (clepped out of that), basic psyc, sociology, G&D psyc, nutrition.
If you didn't have the college classes done you were in school full time between the college classes and the nursing classes. I got the basics out of the way and took the BSN college classes while doing the ADN nursing classes.
The ADN classes and clinicals I learned more then the next 2 years of BSN classes which also had Clinicals but those were self scheduled instead of set up as a routine of the school.
I think the hit the floor running is still who you are and what your school expects and what the hospital will allow. We've had some student externs lately (all ADN) and at least 1/2 are as useless as tits on a boar. You say I have a cath you can put in and they say oh I've already done that. Well you're gonna do it again practice makes perfect
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Old 07-16-2004, 10:04 PM   #12
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Hi I have been reading these posts and I find them to be great. When I was in high school I wanted to get into nursing. LVN to be exact. But I got pregnant and had to hold off on that for some time. 10 years later I am getting my GED and going to start taking classes to get ready for next LVN class. But.... I have been reading on these posts and it would seem that I would be better off trying for my RN BSN Degree. I live in a small town and would have to look for nearest city that would have these courses. Closest town is 80 miles away. Now with three kids Im not sure if I can commute that far for classes. Of course this is a few years down the road but I like to look forward and see what I have in store for me and my family. I thank you for posting the KISS method because it gave me a quick note as to what I will need to do. I am not sure if I will be able to do this but it has been my dream. If there is any other info out there about the BSN degree in fuller detail I would appreciate it. Thanks again
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Old 09-04-2004, 12:57 PM   #13
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I take exception to those who are working so hard to push Associate Degree RN programs into oblivion! Most BSN graduates I have worked with (unless they were an LPN or ADN first) have a difficult time caring for hospital and (heaven forbid) extended care patients. They have been fed so much management and administration content that most feel the facility has no business expecting them to get their hands dirty.

If we want nursing to became the "profession" of offices and managed care, then maybe the BSN is the only way to go. But are we ready to dissert the people who need our care and leave it to someone who is not a registered nurse. If so, I'm going the way of so many others and moving on to another career. (By the way....I have an ADN, a BSN, and working on my MSN. I teach in an ADN program and would not "switch" to BSN if the laws require it).
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Old 09-04-2004, 08:09 PM   #14
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Quick question, What is the MSN?
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Old 09-05-2004, 05:30 AM   #15
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Master of Science in Nursing
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Old 09-06-2004, 05:20 PM   #16
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I hope they instruct you in spelling in that MSN program..

Can you please define dissert for me...


OMG


WR,,, three commas for Becca
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